tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2035557836022548249.post3628998285500317343..comments2024-01-17T03:54:39.225-05:00Comments on Hieing to Kolob: SS Permutations on the Letters of JohnBored in Vernalhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14016611721544251941noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2035557836022548249.post-70922240647969267802007-11-18T02:39:00.000-05:002007-11-18T02:39:00.000-05:00Martha,Thank you for sharing.Do you have evidence ...Martha,<br>Thank you for sharing.<br>Do you have evidence that this is a doctrinal teaching?Bored in Vernalhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14016611721544251941noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2035557836022548249.post-34874422770483390302007-11-17T20:41:00.000-05:002007-11-17T20:41:00.000-05:00Anon/Martha-get over yourself! Really! Back to the...Anon/Martha-get over yourself! Really! <br><br>Back to the topic at hand...I worry about what it does to men when they are told they are spiritual inferior. Does it give many men the excuse to be slackers? Also, does it make women more arrogant to hear that? <br><br>I had someone who used to be a good friend. Her husband was my bishop and we were discussing my issues with women and the priesthood. She told me how she watched her husband and knew of the power in the calling. I replied, "does that mean if a woman held the calling it would be less real?". She had to admit that no, it wouldn't. <br><br>In regards to question 4-Is saying "bite me" wrong? In all seriousness, at this point I would request documentation of that. I think in reviewing church history, we can find more reasons for women to hold the priesthood than for with holding it from them. i.e, the examples that women may have been given it in the past, etc.Tanya Suenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2035557836022548249.post-23630612133474850722007-11-17T18:36:00.000-05:002007-11-17T18:36:00.000-05:00Why do you waste your time going to church if you ...Why do you waste your time going to church if you don't really believe the teachings are correct.<br><br>Here's a story to consider<br><br>http://www.fightpc.net/showthread.php?t=75Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2035557836022548249.post-79001830723770251642007-11-17T18:20:00.000-05:002007-11-17T18:20:00.000-05:00I used to cringe every time I heard someone insist...I used to cringe every time I heard someone insist that women don't "need" the priesthood (as in holding it) because they are "so much more spiritual" than men are. I would especially cringe when I heard a woman say it.<br><br>What it is, really, is a backhanded compliment that serves the double purpose of pacifying the women at the same time pointing out their "place" to them.<br><br>It is very much like telling a fat woman that she has "such a pretty face". Yes, being told she is pretty is a compliment. Still, what is really being said is: "Yeah, you might have a pretty face, but you're fat and don't you forget it."<br><br>Saying that women don't need the priesthood because they are so much more spiritual than men is really saying: "Women don't...and can't...have the priesthood and don't you forget it."<br><br>Just my 2 cents' worth.littlemissattitudehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09826943351455750612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2035557836022548249.post-71667232274181406212007-11-16T23:24:00.000-05:002007-11-16T23:24:00.000-05:00Welcome, Dear BiV, to the Church of Making Stuff u...Welcome, Dear BiV, to the Church of Making Stuff up.<br><br>Good job.Annhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07636304888031546405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2035557836022548249.post-2244984310115732962007-11-16T18:48:00.000-05:002007-11-16T18:48:00.000-05:00"As daughters of God, you cannot imagine the ..."As daughters of God, you cannot imagine the divine potential within each of you. Surely the secret citadel of women’s inner strength is spirituality. In this you equal and even surpass men, as you do in faith, morality, and commitment when truly converted to the gospel. You have “more trust in the Lord [and] more hope in his word.” 15 This inner spiritual sense seems to give you a certain resilience to cope with sorrow, trouble, and uncertainty."<br><br><br>James E. Faust, “What It Means to Be a Daughter of God,” Ensign, Nov 1999, 100<br><br>Though, I don't see that this as a reason for men to have the priesthood...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2035557836022548249.post-31289587063077352702007-11-16T18:10:00.000-05:002007-11-16T18:10:00.000-05:00well, it sounds like a load of malarkey if you ask...well, it sounds like a load of malarkey if you ask me.. personally, i am currently an inactive mormon who believes that women should have the priesthood.. so, therefore to me it sounds like an excuse to shut up active women like me.. tell them that giving the priesthood only to men because they need help. if they need that much help, well - there's got to be a way that doesn't exclude 51% of the church from the priesthood. personally i think its just the patriarchy raising its sorry head again.. too bad the patriarchy forgets that there are a whole lot of women who are smarter than that.brookehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12252293767943598801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2035557836022548249.post-86408251214767839812007-11-16T17:51:00.000-05:002007-11-16T17:51:00.000-05:00I love the story and I love that you called the te...I love the story and I love that you called the teacher out on it.<br><br>Funny, I did some brief research and I couldn't find a GA who said that, although more local leaders have said that than I can count.Tanya Suenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2035557836022548249.post-29134420268534912422007-11-16T17:48:00.000-05:002007-11-16T17:48:00.000-05:00Ack, maybe it's a good thing I'm not going...Ack, maybe it's a good thing I'm not going to be in SS this week... I'm pretty sure the teacher already thinks "oh no, not Sister Téa again" when I have something to say.<br><br>It's when we insert reasons where none have been given, that's where the trouble begins. And where there's trouble... <br><br>It's the Super Pseudo Doctrine Deconstruction team to the rescue! Good for you to flash your badge, BiV.Téahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06885267254682952325noreply@blogger.com