tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2035557836022548249.post2104419961376104086..comments2024-01-17T03:54:39.225-05:00Comments on Hieing to Kolob: The Four Horsemen of the ApocalypseBored in Vernalhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14016611721544251941noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2035557836022548249.post-55792275122423074942009-05-10T23:04:00.000-04:002009-05-10T23:04:00.000-04:00Yes! You and I are on the same page! I wrote an ...Yes! You and I are on the same page! I wrote an article and posted it on the Feast Upon the Word site. The four horses represent the roles of Jesus Christ. I was excited to read your post, even though it is a couple of years since you wrote it!Janet Lisonbeenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2035557836022548249.post-55209609533243101802009-02-27T06:55:00.000-05:002009-02-27T06:55:00.000-05:00I believe that the descriptions of the horsemen ar...I believe that the descriptions of the horsemen are "Christ-Like". I don't believe that it's Christ himself. I believe that the practice of allowing other beings the privilege of doing his work is still valid at this point of the opening of the four seals.<br><br>Furthermore, look at the reference to the elements. Power was given unto these four. Moses was given power over Water (pearl of great price). I see no reason why they were not given power to command the elements via the four winds.<br><br>We all know that when God spoke*** the world was. Sound is transfered via the air and other elements. When God gives power, he's giving Authority* to speak and act in his name.<br><br>There are other references to the Horsemen/Chariots, and it has nothing to do with individual dispensations.<br><br>Remember that horses are uses for traveling and for carrying messengers. We can see that the descriptions of the riders and their horses depict How they go about fulfilling their calling.<br><br>To sum up my entire interpretation:<br>Messengers are given power to go forth and do all sorts of stuff in preparation for the coming of Jesus Christ.<br><br>PS:Christ is not the horsemen. He hasn't come a second time yet, and has only came ONCE. So the "event" theory is not valid. Not only that, but as mormons, lol, God would never go as far as describe himself as four more separate individuals, because he simply ISN'T.HerrQuixotahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15106378104273800345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2035557836022548249.post-77775913099957990062007-12-31T18:22:00.000-05:002007-12-31T18:22:00.000-05:00Let me first thank you for your kindness in linkin...Let me first thank you for your kindness in linking to my site MormonMysticism.com <br><br>May I suggest a different view on the four horsemen?<br><br>I wrote about this topic in my first book, letting my lack of humility show, it is the correct answer. Here is the link: <a href="http://mormonmysticism.blogspot.com/2007/08/kingdoms-that-clash.html" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow">Kingdoms That Clash</a>. Good books on this topic in LDS circles are hard to find.<br><br>-DavidDavid Littlefieldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15369036998624269404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2035557836022548249.post-47668539816207571952007-12-13T02:15:00.000-05:002007-12-13T02:15:00.000-05:00Janell, this particular LDS teaching actually fits...Janell, this particular LDS teaching actually fits into my new thinking, however I prefer not to assign a particular prophet to each horse. Remember that the opening of each seal represents a roughly thousand-year dispensation. The first thousand years is the time of Adam to Enoch and we can, if we are so inclined, assign the white horse/prophet to the prophet Enoch. Enoch's revelation of Christ was associated with crowns and victory. Similarly, the opening of the second seal represents the second thousand years. Most would agree that the red horse would represent Noah, since he is the most dominant prophet of the second dispensation. Noah's revelation of Christ resulted in division and bloodshed for the wicked people to whom he preached. The third dispensation is associated with several different prophets. If we must assign a single one to the symbolic horse, I prefer the prophet Joseph of Egypt, an important revealer in biblical and Book of Mormon theology. He is also more associated with famine, the black color of the horse, and the scales in my conception of him. However, a strong case could also be made for the prophet Moses to represent this black horse.<br><br>The death of the early Christian martyrs does not come until the fifth seal is opened, and is covered in verses 9-11 so it does not fit in with the four horsemen. But the fourth dispensation did include prophets such as David, Isaiah, Lehi, and many others. The unveiling of Christ that they participated in was also accompanied by death, hunger and the sword. (Remember also the sword as a symbol of the Word of God.) <br><br>For now I am content to recognize the horses as prophets of these various dispensations, carrying upon their backs a revelation of the Messiah to their people and therefore causing all sorts of tumult in their wake. At a later time I would certainly like to try to associate the different prophets and time periods with the seven seals.Bored in Vernalhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14016611721544251941noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2035557836022548249.post-86856470463576798702007-12-12T15:27:00.000-05:002007-12-12T15:27:00.000-05:00Thanks for sharing, BiV. I'm sure this took yo...Thanks for sharing, BiV. I'm sure this took you a while to type up and organize, but I thoroughly enjoyed reading it and found it very insightful. I'm not sure what I think about this subject and haven't done nearly enough of my own reading/thinking/pondering to comment on it.....but you definitely sparked curiousity in me to re-visit these references. I'm glad you posted this.journeygalhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14929444184506427544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2035557836022548249.post-55199542752070794972007-12-12T03:22:00.000-05:002007-12-12T03:22:00.000-05:00I favor the interpretation that the four horsemen ...I favor the interpretation that the four horsemen represent the first four dispensations (victory of the city of Enoch, bloodshed due to the wickedness and the flood during Noah's time, the famine of Abraham's time, and the escalated death of saints in Christ's time). <br><br>I do, however, rather like your interpretation, and I'll probably extend my own to account for brining everything back to Christ. After all, all things testify of Christ :)Janellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11092893864737058248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2035557836022548249.post-9818604648223068512007-12-11T20:38:00.000-05:002007-12-11T20:38:00.000-05:00That was great! Thank you so much, I'd never h...That was great! Thank you so much, I'd never heard this interpretation, but it makes so much sense.SilverRainhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00580230961425635077noreply@blogger.com