tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2035557836022548249.post8264145042088119329..comments2024-01-17T03:54:39.225-05:00Comments on Hieing to Kolob: The True Order of PrayerBored in Vernalhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14016611721544251941noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2035557836022548249.post-28786360732149095922008-12-01T20:39:00.000-05:002008-12-01T20:39:00.000-05:00Yes, that's certainly true. (see my first par...Yes, that's certainly true. (see my first paragraph.)Bored in Vernalhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14016611721544251941noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2035557836022548249.post-36991104437928390102008-12-01T19:21:00.000-05:002008-12-01T19:21:00.000-05:00God answers prayer according to his timing in appl...God answers prayer according to his timing in application to his perfect will for our lives and all that establishes and furthers his kingdom. We are willing to accept his permissive will when we seek to just get an answer to prayer. We pray for others and wish the best for them but may be getting in God's way. Scripture (to pray amiss). We should approach God first and seek his face before we try to pray for others. Some are discouraged when prayers are not answered when they want and how they want. God is sometimes doing a work in someones life or the lives of those around them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2035557836022548249.post-44238534266498331322008-01-02T10:38:00.000-05:002008-01-02T10:38:00.000-05:00If you meant to say that we should listen for the ...If you meant to say that we should listen for the Spirit to prompt us what to pray for, I agree absolutely.<br><br>Prayer has become a learning process for me since I understood this principle. It has become the primary source of transformation in my life.<br><br>Thanks for this wonderful, thoughtful post.J G-Whttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03557940681381951271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2035557836022548249.post-66148447288709487562007-12-31T23:46:00.000-05:002007-12-31T23:46:00.000-05:00My dad had a sign on his desk in his office when I...My dad had a sign on his desk in his office when I was growing up that has remained with me over the years:<br>"Beware of your desires, for ye shall surely attain them" (I think it's a quote from Wordsworth, but I'm not sure).Richnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2035557836022548249.post-48287387110164058372007-12-31T21:04:00.000-05:002007-12-31T21:04:00.000-05:00Enjoyed reading your post. Seems like the older I ...Enjoyed reading your post. Seems like the older I get, the more I think about prayer and how powerful it can be. I don't have the book in front of me right now (and am disinclined to go look for it), but I remember Sheri Dew saying something like we claim to have faith and yet all over the world LDS chapels are filled with people who don't ask for what they want. They might ask yet not be specific enough and without enough faith that what they want will really occur. She told a story of a woman who really, really, really wanted this house, and Sheri Dew prayed (in front of the woman) that her friend would have this house or something better. As well as I remember, the woman was a bit incredulous over the whole thing and asked if Sheri Dew really thought it might happen. "Yes," was her answer. We all can get "yes" IF it's His will and If we ask in faith. Yet we don't ask, and I'm wondering why.marlajaynehttp://marlajayne.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2035557836022548249.post-60309966518817472852007-12-31T07:56:00.000-05:002007-12-31T07:56:00.000-05:00J G-W, the word "dictate" is a little fu...J G-W, the word "dictate" is a little fuzzy. I wasn't really thinking about the connotation of a mandate, but more like guidance or promptings.Bored in Vernalhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14016611721544251941noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2035557836022548249.post-69606380325150937192007-12-31T01:41:00.000-05:002007-12-31T01:41:00.000-05:00I like this post very very much. Somehow, though,...I like this post very very much. Somehow, though, the word "dictate" doesn't do it for me. It sounds a little bit too much like making puppets of us, when my understanding of the principle of agency suggests that God specifically does not want us to be puppets. But the idea of prayer being a process by which we align ourselves with God I totally agree with. Jesus taught us this principle in the Lord's prayer... "Thy will be done on earth as it is in Heaven..."J G-Whttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03557940681381951271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2035557836022548249.post-51713475025779639632007-12-29T07:19:00.000-05:002007-12-29T07:19:00.000-05:00I have given the concept of the true order of pray...I have given the concept of the true order of prayer some thought. Your post has a great deal of merit about the attitude of prayer. The matter of the topics we should pray about are something I have examined over the years when I have seen various people pray in church meetings and temple meetings. The general topics include youth, missionaries, members serving in the military, rulers of nations, personal needs of people on temple prayer rolls, the temple presidency and workers, the general authorities particularly the Prophet and his counselors or stake and local leaders, and finally the personal needs of people in the congregation. I tend to think the spirit moves us in the true order to pray for that which is revealed in our own personal lives for us and our families. I don't see why we don't have more specificity in our prayers. I think some of the things covered might occasionally come out in our daily prayers conducted in the true order by but I think there is more diversity than what I hear in the group prayers. Since who knows why someone puts something on roll there might be a great deal more diversity of topics but only God and the person who put it there might know what they even are.Dr. B.http://mormonmission.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2035557836022548249.post-21315471874877702622007-12-27T15:28:00.000-05:002007-12-27T15:28:00.000-05:00I am often fearful of praying because I reflect on...I am often fearful of praying because I reflect on the saying, "Watch what you pray for, you just might get it."<br><br>This is a prayer I relate to:<br><br>"God, I offer myself to Thee - to build with me and to do with me as Thou wilt. Relieve me of the bondage of self, that I may better do Thy will. Take away my difficulties, that victory over them may bear witness to those I would help of Thy Power, Thy Love, and Thy Way of life. May I do Thy will always!"<br><br>Third Step Prayer, Alcoholics Anonymous.Kalolahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04489121984901640634noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2035557836022548249.post-64205535851585265152007-12-27T06:57:00.000-05:002007-12-27T06:57:00.000-05:00Thank you, BiV. This was a most beautiful post.I&#...Thank you, BiV. This was a most beautiful post.<br><br>I've been thinking about a parallel topic. I think it is necessary to first humble oneself before one can possibly pray in the way you describe.SilverRainhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00580230961425635077noreply@blogger.com